Finding Jay…Beyond the Kettle

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“ So, does bigfoot exist? I believe it does. But what a bigfoot is, is a whole other beast of a question, isn’t it? That’s why I’m out here hunting the truth, I’m trying to find those answers…” __ Jay Bachochin

It’s Saturday night, I’m in my Jammies, I’ve popped my popcorn now I’m sitting down to watch and review a new documentary. One that I’ve been eagerly anticipating for awhile. Beyond the Kettle Finding Jay 2.

If you’re not familiar with Jay, and didn’t catch his first documentary, Finding Jay, here’s a bit from a previous interview I had with Jay about what made him began his journey with bigfoot;

While I was still fascinated with the ghost
phenomenon it wasn’t until October 2013
when I entered the Kettle Moraine. We heard
what sounded like a simian type yell in the
distant woods. We couldn’t identify it.
Personally, I’ve never been the big outdoor
man and didn’t know all the sounds of the
woods. That’s why I went onto the computer
to find some sounds of the indigenous
animals in Southeast Wisconsin. We couldn’t
find a match. And It intrigued me so much
that I thought, maybe there is something to
this Bigfoot.”

His first documentary he presents some very interesting evidence he’s collected over his five year long research into the Kettle Moraine in Wisconsin. For me personally, the evidence presented that showed something moving out there like a Predator cloaked alien (I know some people hate that description, but it fits)! It shook me a bit. You put your own theory of what one can be into this little box, but then evidence like this comes along and challenges those beliefs and theories and it makes you reevaluate everything because that box didn’t leave a spot open for an encounter like that.

Jay has had other bigfoot encounters out there before, so he knows a little bit about what you may find out there should you head to the kettle. Here is a bit about his encounters from that same past interview;

“I have had four encounters with bigfoot.
They all weren’t up close Harry and The
Henderson’s style, but unique enough to
know what it was. The first one was really
quite extraordinary. It was at night in the
woods with no light, the snow filled the forest
floor and you can see like an animal without
any lights. I saw this 8 foot being swaying
from side to side and then it glided as if it
was on the wire to another tree. I wasn’t
scared as I was more intrigued.

Now, fast forward just a couple of years, and you have the follow up, Beyond the Kettle. In this second documentary, he addresses what many people have reported seeing in the forests, sometimes along with bigfoot sighting as well. The orbs or strange lights in the forests have been seen for centuries now. Some call these lights, will-o’ of the wisps.

They are scientifically explained as being swamp gas. Swamp gas experts say it’s caused by organic matter breaking down near wetlands. But no one can really explain how this “swamp gas”, is able move around. These lights out there in the woods that people see, that I’ve seen, they moves, and not always near water. And these circular orbs Jay and other respected researchers have seem are just flying around. (amongst other strangeness as well) The husband and wife team of the singular fortean society and Adam Benedict of the pine barrens institute both appear in this documentary and share their thoughts on what they have witnessed out there hike with Jay.

The Squatch Detective

There are other great researchers appearing in this documentary as well, such as Steve Kulls The Squatch Detective. He is one of the researchers Jay trusts to help isolate and analyze the audio and video evidence he captures, but he also weighs in on the strange lights phenomena as well. (And of course the woo!)

Eerie Lights

David Weatherly speaks to the folkloric aspect of the lights. Discussing many different theories out there on what they may be. A few he mentions are the fae people, spirit,, and even otherworldly creature. I myself am not sure yet of what I think they could be. But regardless of whatever they may be, as you are seeing them for yourself, your mind is thinking “what the hell is that?!”

Rounding out the esteemed “four horseman” (jay’s words) is Ken Gerhard and Ron Morehead of Sierra Sounds discussing bigfoot language and Quantum Bigfoot. The line up of all these researchers combined is very impressive.

But at the center of all this, what all this is really about is Jay’s journey and what does all this evidence, all these encounters mean to him, what does beyond the kettle mean to him? Well…let’s ask him that and maybe a few other things too.

You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth…

Jay went down to the kettle….

What are these new techniques and experiments you’re doing in woods!  (Like leap frog) 

When I go out hiking, I am always using the ‘human technique’. The ‘human technique’ is simple because we don’t have to try to be human, of course, we just are. So talking out loud, laughing and enjoying nature by observing our surroundings is one of the best techniques you can use. They are curious about us and will come in for a closer look if we’re not dressed in camouflage and walking quietly like “we’re hunting wabbit”. It’s the human condition Bigfoot finds curious and entertaining. With that said, in 2017 I began a technique called ‘The Leap Frog Technique’. While using safety and being smart, we will use walkie-talkies to communicate as we send 1 person up 100 yards on the path, the next person will go only 50 yards and the last person stays put at the starting spot. The objective is to safely isolate ourselves in the woods while using the ‘human technique’ of being alone in the woods. We’re hoping that the curious forest people come in for a closer look to one of us. We can whistle, cup our hands and clap twice, talk to the woods, just be human while being alone. While doing this technique over the years I have been collecting data of those that experience something while they are isolated. An encounter doesn’t always happen to the people you hike with, it’ll happen with different people. The results are staggering. It seems like the less equipment you have on you, the better the chance Bigfoot will approach closer. My theory is that these forest people can sense our feelings (or intentions) while being the woods. Those that have their cameras going the whole time may seem aggressive (as they want to stay hidden). However, those without any recording devices can’t record their encounter and that is exactly what a Bigfoot we be attracted to, not to be caught on film or audio. Other technique has also been effective and that is to stop hiking for miles to try and find Bigfoot. Bigfoot will find you (i.e. how I named my first documentary). We’ll never find Bigfoot but Bigfoot will find us. So hike into the woods and bring a camping chair and just sit and be patient. Again, the human technique. Bottom line, it’s a double edge sword, or a damned if you, damned if you don’t strategy. Do you want to make contact or have an encounter without any proof or do you want to use all that technology wrapped over your body and not experience or encounter anything? It’s a crap shoot and it really comes down to the individual’s intentions: Prove it to the world and be rich with all the money in the world or to have a one on one relationship with a being we don’t fully understand and learn from?

Has your theories about Bigfoot changed since your last documentary?    

Pretty much my whole life I didn’t believe Bigfoot existed, that is, up until 2013. At this point I thought Bigfoot was a flesh and blood primate we (science) hasn’t caught up with yet. Yet, over the years of researching these beings we haven’t found a body or bones. So how could that be if they were just a flesh and blood primate. The more you research these beings (books, podcasts and of course, boots to ground) you begin to have more questions than answers. How did the tracks I found in 2014 just suddenly end? I followed 12 of them and they disappeared in a clearing with the closest large tree 25 yards away. Did it jump that long distance to the trees? Walk through a portal? Sprout wings and fly away? Since my last film I have ‘shifted’ my beliefs of Bigfoot. I do believe Bigfoot is flesh and blood (as it leaves physical prints as evidence) but also, people have sightings of a physical being. But i now believe they have special attributes that we can’t comprehend. I don’t mix supernatural with the paranormal because they each have a different meaning. Supernatural means they would have abilities that we as humans do not. Can they speak with their minds using telepathy? Can they use infrasound with other animals or people to make themselves invisible? Are they so advanced that they can alter their physical form into energy to travel quickly and silently through the woods to avoid detection? We really don’t know those answers but this is how I approach Bigfoot in the woods.

You’ve gone out with a few great researchers, what are some of the great tips and tactics you got from them?

It’s common that different researchers use different techniques because of their beliefs in their own quest. But if there is one technique I can take away to use for myself, that is a reward. One technique is so simple. Do not let your bias get the best of you (i.e. there is a Bigfoot behind every tree). It’s very easy for me to say I’m not expecting an encounter (but realistically I’m jumping up and down in the inside that today can be the day!). So while a lot of researchers dress in camouflage and are silent in the brush, using trail cams, pheromones, etc. I may not use those techniques but I do respect them and their own personal quest. But I always remain open and learn from other researchers.


Do you have just one or two specific areas in the kettle you frequent, or do you investigate all over? 

I’m definitely not like ‘Finding Bigfoot’ where I can travel all over the United States to investigate. One, I’m not rich and have the funds and two, I found an area of the Kettle (about a 15 mile radius) and have certain areas of this area deemed as ‘areas’. I’ve had so many encounters in ‘this’ area since 2013 and don’t plan to go outside this area. The radius has (5) separate areas I research which I deem Area A, B or C, etc. People ask me why I don’t go outside these areas and it’s simple: I don’t have all the answers I’m seeking in this area. It may take me the rest of my life to keep investigating this area but I’d rather have the answers I seek then try to prove they exist outside this radius.

What do you think all these orbs we see could be? And how do you think they could be related to bigfoot? 

Why do I think the ‘orbs’ of light are connected with Bigfoot? That’s a simple answer (for me). Let me digress on how I came to this conclusion of what the orbs of lights are in the woods. In August of 2020 I experienced the trifacta of Bigfoot encounters. We heard a fake owl call (as if it was made by a person or other), and then a very incredible thermal capture of a Bigfoot peeking around a tree and as it finally ducked for the last time behind a tree, a well lit orb came from the same area I caught the peeking Bigfoot on thermal. But then the unexpected happened as the orb of light went from left to right in front of us, we heard an incredibly loud breaking through the trees and brush. My theory is that the flesh and blood Bigfoot peeking behind the tree became energy to evade being caught on thermal and glided seamlessly through the trees only to become solid flesh and blood again which caused all the breaking through the brush. While that’s a far-out theory, it’s only because I experienced the trifacta of bigfoot behavior (without the orbs of light). The orb of light was a bonus in this encounter.

Is there anything different to how you pack now for an investigation out there compared to now? 

I used to go LIGHTS. CAMERAS. ACTION. into the woods. I was my own TV Production Crew. Nowadays I ‘try’ to carry less technology on me even though I do carry it in my side bag (just in case I need it). It’s that age old debate: do I carry no technology and maybe have a better chance of an encounter or carry technology in hopes to capture something? It really is a struggle for me as I’m not trying to capture evidence to prove to the world that Bigfoot exists, however, I would like at least show my wife I caught this Bigfoot on film so she doesn’t think her husband is crazy. Today I put on a body cam and my audio device to record and conceal everything else and have the mind set that I’m just hiking in the woods. That way I forget about the body cam and audio device that allows me to concentrate on the hike as the ‘human technique’ is legitimate. That’s my belief anyway. It’s hit or miss so I keep trying different things and evolve with my journey.

Now that the children are older are they wanting to be more involved or less? 

Both of my kids still hold a big interest in Bigfoot and dad’s quest to Hunt the Truth but honestly it was easier when they were younger. They had no choice (I say that laughing out loud). But honestly, they are older, still hold that interest but it’s not their main interest anymore which is ok with me. It may take a little coaxing to get them out in the woods like I did when they were younger but once they get out, they are happy to be back in the woods. My goal was to teach my kids not to just look for bigfoot, rather, to Hunt the Truth. Hunting the Truth doesn’t end with Bigfoot, Aliens or Ghosts. I have taught them to question everything and seek their answers (just don’t listen to it from someone and accept that answer). With that being said, my kids still come out to the woods with me but they are both different in accepting a noise in the woods or an eerie feeling they had. They both think it could be a bigfoot but it could also be something else.


Do you still investigate the Beast of Bray Road? 

Bray road is on my way to and from where I research in the Kettle. So I still patrol Bray Road and the surrounding roads from time to time. Unfortunately Bray Road is not accessible by pulling off the road to investigate. Bray Road is occupied by 3rd and 4th Generation Farmers so it’s all Privately Owned. I also believe that ‘the Beast’ is not confined to Bray Road. This Dogman could’ve been the red eyes I’ve seen in the Kettle back in 2016. It could be possible Dogman is a different kind of Bigfoot or Bigfoot is related to a Dogman. It’s hard to say at this point. Bottom line I do still investigate Dogman ‘The Beast’ but it many not always be on Bray Road.

Do you think the Kettle Moraine is like its own Bridgewater Triangle with all these strange happenings reported there?

Without investigating the Bridewater Triangle I can only go by what I’ve experienced in the Kettle Moraine. If all these encounters in the Bridgewater Triangle are true then yes, I think they can one in the same. Different areas on the globe that all share the same phenomenon.

What does beyond the kettle mean to you? 

‘Beyond the Kettle’ is a play on words. One would think the title refers to me exploring beyond the Kettle into other areas of the state or other states. On the contrary ‘Beyond the Kettle’s means that I am still in the Kettle exploring but I need to look past the hills, trails and trees. Look beyond what I can visually see and have an open mind to other out-of-this-world possibilities. Sometimes you need to take a leap a faith as the questions you seek only bring more questions, not answers.

Do you feel bigfoot is more of supernatural being?

Nobody knows what a bigfoot is (as there is no wrong answer). But since I’m asked if a Bigfoot is a Supernatural Being I’ll give you my opinion. I believe they are Supernatural and are the first humans on planet Earth. I believe they have adapted to their environment and nature itself. By doing so, their behavior is like a wild animal, however, they are very intelligent to know one simple word ‘consequence’. Wild animals don’t have a consequence mentality. A wild cougar or angered bear would have no problem attacking a human. They’re animals and they are doing what they instinctively do. Bigfoot won’t advance on the human race or abduct them while they are out for a walk on the trails. They would know if they broke that rule, the rest of us humans would go searching for that missing person. This would cause a disruption in their daily lives as they just want to be left alone and prosper. So I believe these Bigfoot ‘people’ use only what nature and their surroundings give them. This is how they have special attributes (which we would call Supernatural). Supernatural is something we don’t understand and like to call it Paranormal. But both Supernatural and Paranormal are two completely different things.

When and where can everyone find the documentary? 

Currently you can find both FINDING JAY and BEYOND THE KETTLE: FINDING JAY 2 streaming on Vimeo. You can find both links to Vimeo for both films on his website : www.jaybachochin.com. Keep checking in to the website for updates.

If people want to contact you about their encounters, where is the best spot to reach you? 

The best place to contact me is on my website. www.jaybachochin.com. There you can send me a message and reach out with any questions or encounters you have had. Even if someone on the East Coast had a strange encounter, they can message me on my website here in Wisconsin. If we collectively worked together we could unite in Hunting the Truth to try and solve the questions we all ask.

“The truth is in our own reality, in what we discover, there are 8 billion people in the world, everyone has their own truth. I don’t even know if there is just one truth anymore. But the truth is the one that you find, the one that makes sense. So you have to go out and discover for yourself, find your truth.

I found my truth, beyond the kettle moraine…”

This documentary has everything you want to see in one film. There are witness encounters, great researchers, a bigfoot and paranormal hot spot, and finally, evidence!

Beyond the Kettle starts streaming in just a few days on Vimeo August 22nd, I absolutely recommend it! I can’t say enough, You don’t want to miss this one!

Come for bigfoot, but stay for the journey…

Beyond the Kettlle Trailer

In the News…The Search for the Mongolian Death Worm…

IT IS the stuff of legend. The Mongolian death worm lives beneath the shifting sands of the Gobi desert, rarely surfacing, and then only to squirt a deadly blast of venom at predators. Some even believe it has the power to electrocute its victims.

For Ivan Mackerle, a scientist and explorer, the search to prove its existence has become a passion. Inspired by nomads’ sightings of the 5ft-long blood-red worm, he is preparing to embark on his third expedition in pursuit of the subterranean creature.

His previous attempts provided no substantive evidence, despite efforts to drive the worm to the surface by detonating explosives in the sand. “It appears to be both deadly and deaf,” said Mackerle.

His planned return to Mongolia is one of an unprecedented number of expeditions being mounted over the next two years by teams from some of the world’s top academic institutions to find creatures which locals say exist but have, as yet, eluded modern science.

The biggest search centres on the dense tropical jungle of the Mato Grosso in the South American Amazon basin, where tribesmen speak of a large animal that walks on its hind legs and eats small trees. Dubbed the Amazonian ” bigfoot “, scientists believe it is a giant sloth, which they thought had died out 8,500 years ago.

The leader of the expedition is Dr David Oren, a biologist, whose best clues to its existence are 22lb of faeces and some clumps of hair. Over the past nine years rubber tappers and Indians have told him of a creature they call Mapinguari, with dark red fur, a thunderous roaring voice and a disabling stench. Last week he was unavailable for comment as he searched the jungle again.

Colleagues searching Tasmania for another animal thought to have died out much more recently have been no more successful. Ever since the Thylacine, or Tasmanian Wolf, was declared extinct in the 1930s after over-hunting, there have been persistent reports of sightings.

Teams of scientists have scoured remote parts of the island for what has been called the world’s commonest extinct animal, but to no avail. Their branch of science is known as cryptozoology.

Professor Roy Mackal, a molecular biochemist and zoologist, said: “Expeditions in the past few years have led to a spate of new and hitherto unsuspected species being discovered. Now everyone is looking at these so-called myths and legends and wondering if they are true.”

Mackal has led two expeditions to the Congo in search of the Mokele-mbembe, an aquatic beast said to resemble a small dinosaur. Similar fruitless searches have been made for a 60ft sea serpent known as the Cadborosaurus that is frequently reported off the coast of British Columbia, Canada. It is said to bear remarkable similarities to the Loch Ness monster.

In recent years scientists have discovered a huge kangaroo which lives in trees in Irian Jaya, the western part of New Guinea controlled by Indonesia, and a new species of ox, now named the Vu Quang, which was discovered on the borders of North Vietnam and Laos. The creature has features common to both cattle and antelope and could be a missing link between them. Within the past few months scientists working in the same area have discovered an unknown species of wild pig.

In South America zoologists have discovered a species of peccary (similar to a pig) which was thought to have become extinct millions of years ago. Others, using special nets to trawl the deepest reaches of the Amazon, have found ancient freshwater fish species.

Dr John Lundberg of Arizona University, who led the expedition, said the oddest of the 240 new species he has found was Magosternachus duccis , which stuns its prey with electricity and then eats their tails. The tails later regenerate, ensuring a constant supply of food.

The scientists who make such discoveries are guaranteed to go down in history. The greatest prize of all in cryptozoology, however, lies on land – the discovery of a new species of great ape or, best of all, a second species of hominid. Homo sapiens (us) is the only species known still to survive, although many others have become extinct.

The evidence for the existence of such species is, to cryptozoologists at least, very strong. In the Himalayas there are persistent stories of yetis, thought by some to be a type of orang-utan that has become adapted for life on the ground in the dense rhododendron forests. In North America there are constant sightings of the Sasquatch , or bigfoot , a larger creature whose appearance is similar to that of Gigantopithecus, a large prehistoric ape whose fossil remains are well-documented.

Dr Karl Shuker, a leading cryptozoologist, retains an open mind but says the chances of such a creature being found are high. “Since 1990 seven totally new species of monkey have been found in South America alone. If such primates could remain hidden from scientists for so long then it is highly likely that creatures closer to man and therefore more intelligent may yet be undiscovered.”

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ShukerNature: THE TRUNKO CENTENARY PHOTOGRAPH – A FIFTH TRUNKO IMAGE EMERGES 100 YEARS AFTER TRUNKO ITSELF DID!

ShukerNature: THE TRUNKO CENTENARY PHOTOGRAPH – A FIFTH TRUNKO IMAGE EMERGES 100 YEARS AFTER TRUNKO ITSELF DID!
— Read on karlshuker.blogspot.com/2022/08/the-trunko-centenary-photograph-fifth.html

On the Gorilla Trial…

The delight was not unanimous. In general our announcement about out adventure was received by our friends with a flat- tering gloom, “Why not the lake or chloroform or something usual and immediate results instead of taking the trouble to go to Africa and give ourselves to a lion for lunch ? Also, demanded the

merry ones, if anything did happen, were we planning to ship the consumer back to the Zoo so they could place memorial wreaths about its neck ?

They called attention to Mr. McCutcheon’s picture of the jolly little cemetery back of Nairobi with “Killed by Lion” on every cross, and quoted “The bulge was Algy,”with persistent humor. Especially they pointed out that the gorilla was not noted for hospitality and presented us with various accounts in which we came upon some such heartening paragraph as, “The poor brave fellow who had gone off alone was lying on the ground in a pool of his own blood, his entrails torn out, his gun beside him, bitten in two by the gorilla’s teeth.”

I admit there was room for both humor and dismay. Between the lion’s chances for lunch and ours for a rug the odds we’re sportingly similar. Records were not encouraging, describing the grown male as a demon of ferocity, attacking on sight with a fury few hunters can withstand; but the records of the

gorilla were extremely scarce. It is surprising to learn how little has been discovered about the animal since Du Chaillu wrote his blood- curdling accounts of his adventures in the West Coast Jungle. There is no gorilla in a museum mounted by a man who ever saw a wild gorilla? We know almost nothing of habits or capacities”…

From the the book I’m currently reading.,

On the Gorilla Trail…by MARY HASTINGS BRADLEY.

Mary Bradley is listed as an author, she did pen some sci-fi books. But she wrote a series of books pertaining to her adventure in Africa looking for the great ape. The gorillas.

She spoke of coming to an island of them. Like In King Kong they must have been completely taken back arriving there. They came in to contact with all kinds of animals not seen live before, they also encountered cannibals of their travels. She may be listed as author but she is also a woman of the woods who went on an expedition few women got to do in their life, especially there and in the time in history.

I’ve been reading about the early gorilla encounters, seeing the similarities of what these zoologist/anthropologist went through in their quests as bigfoot researchers do now.

Most believe bigfoot is a great ape. So knowing about their history of discovery is helpful.

But reading this history is not, I repeat is not for the faint of heart. They were not treated well. Horrifically would be a good description of their treatment in the hands of man.

Captured, killed, experimented on, torn from their families.

After reading all this you may think twice about wanting to find a bigfoot alive and bring him in. Even if giving the easiest of opportunities, I’ll never do it, never. They don’t deserve us. Let history be a reminder….

Sources..

https://ia600903.us.archive.org/4/items/ongorillatrail00bradiala/ongorillatrail00bradiala.pdf

Bigfoot on Mars Attacks…

Flashback on this Friday back to this TEENY LITTLE BIGFOOT ON MARS picture. This is a tiny piece from a panorama taken by the Mars Exploration Rover Spirit on 2007 on it’s position on Home Plate.
Pareidolia is a killer when squatching, I definitely had a little trick of the eyes this past week it happens to the best of us!


So, when you’re out there squatching this weekend remember what Grover Krantz warned, “With enough imagination, almost any object of about the right size and shape can be seen as a sasquatch .” Exhaustion, nervousness, or even drugs can generate bigfoot sightings and Sasquatches,” Krantz cautioned, “often come out of whisky bottles.”
I’m not sure about the whiskey bottle part, but black stumps, dark holes in trees and branches moving in the breeze have definitely gotten me lol!
So have fun out there this weekend and don’t forget to bring your glasses!

TGIF

Mystery as adventurer claims to have found the skull of legendary Bigfoot – Mirror Online

Nathaniel Peterson, known better to his followers as Coyote, uploaded a video about the alleged find to his YouTube channel Brave Wilderness, explaining that he found the “large primate skull” in British Columbia

— Read on www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/mystery-adventurer-claims-found-skull-27463920

These photos that Coyote Peterson leaked went viral faster then Madonna and her insane instagram posts. (Madonna please stop we love you just the way you are).

For days on end this is all I saw everywhere, including my own feed. I did post it on twitter myself. My first thought? Wouldn’t it be wonderful if it was true?

But I wonder now, knowing it’s not true, (and pretty sure I knew wasn’t then too) What is driving this recent need to bag a bigfoot right now. What drives someone to hoax something? Is it for fame, money? Those like clicks, subscribers, that push your monetization amounts up? Are those things really worth our integrity? Without said bigfoot integrity is all we have.

Let’s use his embarrassment as a learning curve. There is no short cuts to fame here. If you hoax a sighting (or skull) you always get caught. Always. It’s not worth it. And always remember about the boy who cried bigfoot. He faked it first, and then when bigfoot really showed up no one believed him.

I hope you do get your dream of seeing one. I hope I do too. I get that question all the time you know, “Have you ever even seen a bigfoot? “I have not yet face to face, but I’m okay with that. I enjoy the search, the time in the woods, talking to you. I like the community part of it.

I love seeing the changes happen of where we search and how we search, it’s all fascinating to me. I love the research and the history

I may never see one, the percentage of that happening is low, but that’s okay. Everyone it’s okay. Every thought you share, possible evidence you document is important too.. Just enjoy the moment you’re in.

Love you guys, happy Friday

Tribune investigates: Did a shark attack occur in Lake Michigan?

Did a shark attack occur in Lake Michigan? Check out what Chicago Tribune reporters uncovered.
— Read on www.chicagotribune.com/history/ct-shark-attack-lake-michigan-20220713-fms3wv7dorbldmbf6nabkptvdy-story.html

Interview with Carleton Coon…

Every now and again I’m lucky to find some gems while researching, and today, after an early morning adventure, followed by a good long swim to beat the heat, I began my research and found this recorded interview of Carleton Coon by David Masters at his home in Gloucester Massachusetts. This interview took place in 1978 just four short years before his passing.

What I would have given to be at his home doing this interview myself, seeing all his many collections of books, bones, etc. You could tell from the interview he was also showing David Masters some of his collections.

For those who don’t know who Carleton Coon was, he was an American Anthropologist, He received his degree from Harvard University and was president of the American Association of Physical Medicine, he used Typology to determine the basis of racial and ethnic differences. He is most known for his race theories and book , The Races of Europe. (As well as others) A reviewer of this book particular book wrote,;

“One of the most important anthropological overviews of European racial types ever published. Contains the full set of original photographic plates. Once a college standard, this book has been suppressed for 50 years.”

Carleton had another belief as well, he believed Sasquatch was real. He’s quoted as saying…

“To my mind, a reasonable person who has studied the evidence carefully, like John Green, Rene Dahinden, and Grover Kranz, may be expected to have confidence that the animal exists, but they may not hold him dear or like him very much, because his existence surprises or frightens them. Even before I read John Green’s book, “Sasquatch. The Apes Among us”, I accepted the Sasquatch’s existence.”

This is just a small part of the interview but if you have any free time on your hands you should listen to it in its entirety.

Carleton Steven Coon died in June 1981, the following is an obituary from the NYT and more about his books from https://archive.org/details/racesofeurope031695mbp

“At the time of his passing, June 1981, Carleton Stevens Coon, age 76, was lauded in a New York Times obituary “as one of the last great general anthropologists….” This tribute was remarkable as it came well after the star of this 20th century Renaissance man had lost much of its luster, as had a comprehensive anthropology rooted in careful analysis of skeletal structure supplemented with a thorough knowledge of archaeology, linguistics, and history–for at no point did he neglect culture. Carleton (or “Carl”) Coon had lived a full life of scholarship in the groves of academe, but ventured far beyond, having completed extensive field work in North Africa, Ethiopia, and the Balkans. During the Second World War, he actively supported American and Allied forces in North Africa, running guns as an agent of the Office of Strategic Services to members of the French resistance in Morocco in connection with Anglo-American campaign of 1942-1943 against Axis forces. He returned to the field postwar, exploring sites in the Middle East. Shortly thereafter, he appeared frequently on the early television science series “What in the World?” and became president of the American Anthropological Association in 1962.”

Here is the excerpt from the interview about his thoughts on Sasquatch and details from an investigation he did of a Sasquatch encounter in New Hampshire, the really interesting part was him discussing how the creature mesmerized or maybe hypnotized the witness, causing the man to go “all wonky”.

Sources;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typology

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carleton_S._Coon

https://archive.org/details/racesofeurope031695mbp

https://digitalheritage.noblenet.org/gloucester/items/show/1273

Video art by Steve Baxter

Looking for bigfoot in Rhode Island…

Today Howard and I went out squatching together. I received an email from a woman who had seen all my recent postings from my hikes in Wrentham and Cumberland, as I followed the Warner trail, and she thought I’d be interested in her strange encounter.

For those that hadn’t seen those postings, here’s some info about The Warner Trail. The trail is a 30 mile long New England hiking trail that extends from Diamond Hill in northeast Rhode Island through to Norfolk County, Massachusetts. At one time you could could follow it all the way to the Blue Hills. But of course the land was broken up so developments could be built. While I was exploring I focused most of my time on the wrentham and Plainville area of the trail, but I did do one day in Cumberland Rhode Island.

Over the years I’ve been in many sections of this trail, On one hike In the Moose Hill section in Norfolk Massachusetts I was able to catch a few knocks on my video footage. I also felt a bit like I was being watched. I have also found large structures, etc. if bigfoot was wandering this area I wouldn’t be surprised, it certainly offers everything he would need to sustain him.

So Howard and I hit the trail where, Elaine, had her strange experience. She said she lives off of Fisher Street near Diamond Hill Park in R. I where part of the Warner Trail runs. The trail says private property but apparently you are allowed on it. This part of the trail leads to the Cumberland Reservoir. She said while walking from her house down the trail she heard a sound out there she had never heard before. A sound between a growl and a long babble.

She only heard it that one instance and she didn’t see anything around her. She said she was familiar with Rhode Island wildlife and didn’t think it was one of the usual critters found out there.

Now let me say this part of the trail is a nightmare. Slanted, rocky, narrow and very dense forests, even if something was out there you couldn’t see it, and of course the rocks tore my ankle up again.

We didn’t hear or see anything except for some old grills poking out. I did some research and apparently the YMCA had a campground out there some years ago.

It was a rough walk for most of it, and I didn’t see anything that stood out as any evidence but I did get to walk another section of the trail so I feel like I accomplished something today!

I don’t know if she heard a bigfoot, fox or some crazy person out there, but it would make for an easy migration trail for one to travel on. You have to wonder if he uses these types of trails to get around, I mean why not it’s a nice green corridor to travel on, running right along a river, if I was bigfoot I’d be all over it…

If you have had an odd encounter or bigfoot/paranormal sighting on any part of the Warner trail I’d love to hear from you!

Hope you had a great day today…

Moose Hill, Warner Trail tree knocks

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