Finding Jay…Beyond the Kettle

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“ So, does bigfoot exist? I believe it does. But what a bigfoot is, is a whole other beast of a question, isn’t it? That’s why I’m out here hunting the truth, I’m trying to find those answers…” __ Jay Bachochin

It’s Saturday night, I’m in my Jammies, I’ve popped my popcorn now I’m sitting down to watch and review a new documentary. One that I’ve been eagerly anticipating for awhile. Beyond the Kettle Finding Jay 2.

If you’re not familiar with Jay, and didn’t catch his first documentary, Finding Jay, here’s a bit from a previous interview I had with Jay about what made him began his journey with bigfoot;

While I was still fascinated with the ghost
phenomenon it wasn’t until October 2013
when I entered the Kettle Moraine. We heard
what sounded like a simian type yell in the
distant woods. We couldn’t identify it.
Personally, I’ve never been the big outdoor
man and didn’t know all the sounds of the
woods. That’s why I went onto the computer
to find some sounds of the indigenous
animals in Southeast Wisconsin. We couldn’t
find a match. And It intrigued me so much
that I thought, maybe there is something to
this Bigfoot.”

His first documentary he presents some very interesting evidence he’s collected over his five year long research into the Kettle Moraine in Wisconsin. For me personally, the evidence presented that showed something moving out there like a Predator cloaked alien (I know some people hate that description, but it fits)! It shook me a bit. You put your own theory of what one can be into this little box, but then evidence like this comes along and challenges those beliefs and theories and it makes you reevaluate everything because that box didn’t leave a spot open for an encounter like that.

Jay has had other bigfoot encounters out there before, so he knows a little bit about what you may find out there should you head to the kettle. Here is a bit about his encounters from that same past interview;

“I have had four encounters with bigfoot.
They all weren’t up close Harry and The
Henderson’s style, but unique enough to
know what it was. The first one was really
quite extraordinary. It was at night in the
woods with no light, the snow filled the forest
floor and you can see like an animal without
any lights. I saw this 8 foot being swaying
from side to side and then it glided as if it
was on the wire to another tree. I wasn’t
scared as I was more intrigued.

Now, fast forward just a couple of years, and you have the follow up, Beyond the Kettle. In this second documentary, he addresses what many people have reported seeing in the forests, sometimes along with bigfoot sighting as well. The orbs or strange lights in the forests have been seen for centuries now. Some call these lights, will-o’ of the wisps.

They are scientifically explained as being swamp gas. Swamp gas experts say it’s caused by organic matter breaking down near wetlands. But no one can really explain how this “swamp gas”, is able move around. These lights out there in the woods that people see, that I’ve seen, they moves, and not always near water. And these circular orbs Jay and other respected researchers have seem are just flying around. (amongst other strangeness as well) The husband and wife team of the singular fortean society and Adam Benedict of the pine barrens institute both appear in this documentary and share their thoughts on what they have witnessed out there hike with Jay.

The Squatch Detective

There are other great researchers appearing in this documentary as well, such as Steve Kulls The Squatch Detective. He is one of the researchers Jay trusts to help isolate and analyze the audio and video evidence he captures, but he also weighs in on the strange lights phenomena as well. (And of course the woo!)

Eerie Lights

David Weatherly speaks to the folkloric aspect of the lights. Discussing many different theories out there on what they may be. A few he mentions are the fae people, spirit,, and even otherworldly creature. I myself am not sure yet of what I think they could be. But regardless of whatever they may be, as you are seeing them for yourself, your mind is thinking “what the hell is that?!”

Rounding out the esteemed “four horseman” (jay’s words) is Ken Gerhard and Ron Morehead of Sierra Sounds discussing bigfoot language and Quantum Bigfoot. The line up of all these researchers combined is very impressive.

But at the center of all this, what all this is really about is Jay’s journey and what does all this evidence, all these encounters mean to him, what does beyond the kettle mean to him? Well…let’s ask him that and maybe a few other things too.

You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth…

Jay went down to the kettle….

What are these new techniques and experiments you’re doing in woods!  (Like leap frog) 

When I go out hiking, I am always using the ‘human technique’. The ‘human technique’ is simple because we don’t have to try to be human, of course, we just are. So talking out loud, laughing and enjoying nature by observing our surroundings is one of the best techniques you can use. They are curious about us and will come in for a closer look if we’re not dressed in camouflage and walking quietly like “we’re hunting wabbit”. It’s the human condition Bigfoot finds curious and entertaining. With that said, in 2017 I began a technique called ‘The Leap Frog Technique’. While using safety and being smart, we will use walkie-talkies to communicate as we send 1 person up 100 yards on the path, the next person will go only 50 yards and the last person stays put at the starting spot. The objective is to safely isolate ourselves in the woods while using the ‘human technique’ of being alone in the woods. We’re hoping that the curious forest people come in for a closer look to one of us. We can whistle, cup our hands and clap twice, talk to the woods, just be human while being alone. While doing this technique over the years I have been collecting data of those that experience something while they are isolated. An encounter doesn’t always happen to the people you hike with, it’ll happen with different people. The results are staggering. It seems like the less equipment you have on you, the better the chance Bigfoot will approach closer. My theory is that these forest people can sense our feelings (or intentions) while being the woods. Those that have their cameras going the whole time may seem aggressive (as they want to stay hidden). However, those without any recording devices can’t record their encounter and that is exactly what a Bigfoot we be attracted to, not to be caught on film or audio. Other technique has also been effective and that is to stop hiking for miles to try and find Bigfoot. Bigfoot will find you (i.e. how I named my first documentary). We’ll never find Bigfoot but Bigfoot will find us. So hike into the woods and bring a camping chair and just sit and be patient. Again, the human technique. Bottom line, it’s a double edge sword, or a damned if you, damned if you don’t strategy. Do you want to make contact or have an encounter without any proof or do you want to use all that technology wrapped over your body and not experience or encounter anything? It’s a crap shoot and it really comes down to the individual’s intentions: Prove it to the world and be rich with all the money in the world or to have a one on one relationship with a being we don’t fully understand and learn from?

Has your theories about Bigfoot changed since your last documentary?    

Pretty much my whole life I didn’t believe Bigfoot existed, that is, up until 2013. At this point I thought Bigfoot was a flesh and blood primate we (science) hasn’t caught up with yet. Yet, over the years of researching these beings we haven’t found a body or bones. So how could that be if they were just a flesh and blood primate. The more you research these beings (books, podcasts and of course, boots to ground) you begin to have more questions than answers. How did the tracks I found in 2014 just suddenly end? I followed 12 of them and they disappeared in a clearing with the closest large tree 25 yards away. Did it jump that long distance to the trees? Walk through a portal? Sprout wings and fly away? Since my last film I have ‘shifted’ my beliefs of Bigfoot. I do believe Bigfoot is flesh and blood (as it leaves physical prints as evidence) but also, people have sightings of a physical being. But i now believe they have special attributes that we can’t comprehend. I don’t mix supernatural with the paranormal because they each have a different meaning. Supernatural means they would have abilities that we as humans do not. Can they speak with their minds using telepathy? Can they use infrasound with other animals or people to make themselves invisible? Are they so advanced that they can alter their physical form into energy to travel quickly and silently through the woods to avoid detection? We really don’t know those answers but this is how I approach Bigfoot in the woods.

You’ve gone out with a few great researchers, what are some of the great tips and tactics you got from them?

It’s common that different researchers use different techniques because of their beliefs in their own quest. But if there is one technique I can take away to use for myself, that is a reward. One technique is so simple. Do not let your bias get the best of you (i.e. there is a Bigfoot behind every tree). It’s very easy for me to say I’m not expecting an encounter (but realistically I’m jumping up and down in the inside that today can be the day!). So while a lot of researchers dress in camouflage and are silent in the brush, using trail cams, pheromones, etc. I may not use those techniques but I do respect them and their own personal quest. But I always remain open and learn from other researchers.

Do you have just one or two specific areas in the kettle you frequent, or do you investigate all over? 

I’m definitely not like ‘Finding Bigfoot’ where I can travel all over the United States to investigate. One, I’m not rich and have the funds and two, I found an area of the Kettle (about a 15 mile radius) and have certain areas of this area deemed as ‘areas’. I’ve had so many encounters in ‘this’ area since 2013 and don’t plan to go outside this area. The radius has (5) separate areas I research which I deem Area A, B or C, etc. People ask me why I don’t go outside these areas and it’s simple: I don’t have all the answers I’m seeking in this area. It may take me the rest of my life to keep investigating this area but I’d rather have the answers I seek then try to prove they exist outside this radius.

What do you think all these orbs we see could be? And how do you think they could be related to bigfoot? 

Why do I think the ‘orbs’ of light are connected with Bigfoot? That’s a simple answer (for me). Let me digress on how I came to this conclusion of what the orbs of lights are in the woods. In August of 2020 I experienced the trifacta of Bigfoot encounters. We heard a fake owl call (as if it was made by a person or other), and then a very incredible thermal capture of a Bigfoot peeking around a tree and as it finally ducked for the last time behind a tree, a well lit orb came from the same area I caught the peeking Bigfoot on thermal. But then the unexpected happened as the orb of light went from left to right in front of us, we heard an incredibly loud breaking through the trees and brush. My theory is that the flesh and blood Bigfoot peeking behind the tree became energy to evade being caught on thermal and glided seamlessly through the trees only to become solid flesh and blood again which caused all the breaking through the brush. While that’s a far-out theory, it’s only because I experienced the trifacta of bigfoot behavior (without the orbs of light). The orb of light was a bonus in this encounter.

Is there anything different to how you pack now for an investigation out there compared to now? 

I used to go LIGHTS. CAMERAS. ACTION. into the woods. I was my own TV Production Crew. Nowadays I ‘try’ to carry less technology on me even though I do carry it in my side bag (just in case I need it). It’s that age old debate: do I carry no technology and maybe have a better chance of an encounter or carry technology in hopes to capture something? It really is a struggle for me as I’m not trying to capture evidence to prove to the world that Bigfoot exists, however, I would like at least show my wife I caught this Bigfoot on film so she doesn’t think her husband is crazy. Today I put on a body cam and my audio device to record and conceal everything else and have the mind set that I’m just hiking in the woods. That way I forget about the body cam and audio device that allows me to concentrate on the hike as the ‘human technique’ is legitimate. That’s my belief anyway. It’s hit or miss so I keep trying different things and evolve with my journey.

Now that the children are older are they wanting to be more involved or less? 

Both of my kids still hold a big interest in Bigfoot and dad’s quest to Hunt the Truth but honestly it was easier when they were younger. They had no choice (I say that laughing out loud). But honestly, they are older, still hold that interest but it’s not their main interest anymore which is ok with me. It may take a little coaxing to get them out in the woods like I did when they were younger but once they get out, they are happy to be back in the woods. My goal was to teach my kids not to just look for bigfoot, rather, to Hunt the Truth. Hunting the Truth doesn’t end with Bigfoot, Aliens or Ghosts. I have taught them to question everything and seek their answers (just don’t listen to it from someone and accept that answer). With that being said, my kids still come out to the woods with me but they are both different in accepting a noise in the woods or an eerie feeling they had. They both think it could be a bigfoot but it could also be something else.

Do you still investigate the Beast of Bray Road? 

Bray road is on my way to and from where I research in the Kettle. So I still patrol Bray Road and the surrounding roads from time to time. Unfortunately Bray Road is not accessible by pulling off the road to investigate. Bray Road is occupied by 3rd and 4th Generation Farmers so it’s all Privately Owned. I also believe that ‘the Beast’ is not confined to Bray Road. This Dogman could’ve been the red eyes I’ve seen in the Kettle back in 2016. It could be possible Dogman is a different kind of Bigfoot or Bigfoot is related to a Dogman. It’s hard to say at this point. Bottom line I do still investigate Dogman ‘The Beast’ but it many not always be on Bray Road.

Do you think the Kettle Moraine is like its own Bridgewater Triangle with all these strange happenings reported there?

Without investigating the Bridewater Triangle I can only go by what I’ve experienced in the Kettle Moraine. If all these encounters in the Bridgewater Triangle are true then yes, I think they can one in the same. Different areas on the globe that all share the same phenomenon.

What does beyond the kettle mean to you? 

‘Beyond the Kettle’ is a play on words. One would think the title refers to me exploring beyond the Kettle into other areas of the state or other states. On the contrary ‘Beyond the Kettle’s means that I am still in the Kettle exploring but I need to look past the hills, trails and trees. Look beyond what I can visually see and have an open mind to other out-of-this-world possibilities. Sometimes you need to take a leap a faith as the questions you seek only bring more questions, not answers.

Do you feel bigfoot is more of supernatural being?

Nobody knows what a bigfoot is (as there is no wrong answer). But since I’m asked if a Bigfoot is a Supernatural Being I’ll give you my opinion. I believe they are Supernatural and are the first humans on planet Earth. I believe they have adapted to their environment and nature itself. By doing so, their behavior is like a wild animal, however, they are very intelligent to know one simple word ‘consequence’. Wild animals don’t have a consequence mentality. A wild cougar or angered bear would have no problem attacking a human. They’re animals and they are doing what they instinctively do. Bigfoot won’t advance on the human race or abduct them while they are out for a walk on the trails. They would know if they broke that rule, the rest of us humans would go searching for that missing person. This would cause a disruption in their daily lives as they just want to be left alone and prosper. So I believe these Bigfoot ‘people’ use only what nature and their surroundings give them. This is how they have special attributes (which we would call Supernatural). Supernatural is something we don’t understand and like to call it Paranormal. But both Supernatural and Paranormal are two completely different things.

When and where can everyone find the documentary? 

Currently you can find both FINDING JAY and BEYOND THE KETTLE: FINDING JAY 2 streaming on Vimeo. You can find both links to Vimeo for both films on his website : Keep checking in to the website for updates.

If people want to contact you about their encounters, where is the best spot to reach you? 

The best place to contact me is on my website. There you can send me a message and reach out with any questions or encounters you have had. Even if someone on the East Coast had a strange encounter, they can message me on my website here in Wisconsin. If we collectively worked together we could unite in Hunting the Truth to try and solve the questions we all ask.

“The truth is in our own reality, in what we discover, there are 8 billion people in the world, everyone has their own truth. I don’t even know if there is just one truth anymore. But the truth is the one that you find, the one that makes sense. So you have to go out and discover for yourself, find your truth.

I found my truth, beyond the kettle moraine…”

This documentary has everything you want to see in one film. There are witness encounters, great researchers, a bigfoot and paranormal hot spot, and finally, evidence!

Beyond the Kettle starts streaming in just a few days on Vimeo August 22nd, I absolutely recommend it! I can’t say enough, You don’t want to miss this one!

Come for bigfoot, but stay for the journey…

Beyond the Kettlle Trailer

In the News…The Search for the Mongolian Death Worm…

IT IS the stuff of legend. The Mongolian death worm lives beneath the shifting sands of the Gobi desert, rarely surfacing, and then only to squirt a deadly blast of venom at predators. Some even believe it has the power to electrocute its victims.

For Ivan Mackerle, a scientist and explorer, the search to prove its existence has become a passion. Inspired by nomads’ sightings of the 5ft-long blood-red worm, he is preparing to embark on his third expedition in pursuit of the subterranean creature.

His previous attempts provided no substantive evidence, despite efforts to drive the worm to the surface by detonating explosives in the sand. “It appears to be both deadly and deaf,” said Mackerle.

His planned return to Mongolia is one of an unprecedented number of expeditions being mounted over the next two years by teams from some of the world’s top academic institutions to find creatures which locals say exist but have, as yet, eluded modern science.

The biggest search centres on the dense tropical jungle of the Mato Grosso in the South American Amazon basin, where tribesmen speak of a large animal that walks on its hind legs and eats small trees. Dubbed the Amazonian ” bigfoot “, scientists believe it is a giant sloth, which they thought had died out 8,500 years ago.

The leader of the expedition is Dr David Oren, a biologist, whose best clues to its existence are 22lb of faeces and some clumps of hair. Over the past nine years rubber tappers and Indians have told him of a creature they call Mapinguari, with dark red fur, a thunderous roaring voice and a disabling stench. Last week he was unavailable for comment as he searched the jungle again.

Colleagues searching Tasmania for another animal thought to have died out much more recently have been no more successful. Ever since the Thylacine, or Tasmanian Wolf, was declared extinct in the 1930s after over-hunting, there have been persistent reports of sightings.

Teams of scientists have scoured remote parts of the island for what has been called the world’s commonest extinct animal, but to no avail. Their branch of science is known as cryptozoology.

Professor Roy Mackal, a molecular biochemist and zoologist, said: “Expeditions in the past few years have led to a spate of new and hitherto unsuspected species being discovered. Now everyone is looking at these so-called myths and legends and wondering if they are true.”

Mackal has led two expeditions to the Congo in search of the Mokele-mbembe, an aquatic beast said to resemble a small dinosaur. Similar fruitless searches have been made for a 60ft sea serpent known as the Cadborosaurus that is frequently reported off the coast of British Columbia, Canada. It is said to bear remarkable similarities to the Loch Ness monster.

In recent years scientists have discovered a huge kangaroo which lives in trees in Irian Jaya, the western part of New Guinea controlled by Indonesia, and a new species of ox, now named the Vu Quang, which was discovered on the borders of North Vietnam and Laos. The creature has features common to both cattle and antelope and could be a missing link between them. Within the past few months scientists working in the same area have discovered an unknown species of wild pig.

In South America zoologists have discovered a species of peccary (similar to a pig) which was thought to have become extinct millions of years ago. Others, using special nets to trawl the deepest reaches of the Amazon, have found ancient freshwater fish species.

Dr John Lundberg of Arizona University, who led the expedition, said the oddest of the 240 new species he has found was Magosternachus duccis , which stuns its prey with electricity and then eats their tails. The tails later regenerate, ensuring a constant supply of food.

The scientists who make such discoveries are guaranteed to go down in history. The greatest prize of all in cryptozoology, however, lies on land – the discovery of a new species of great ape or, best of all, a second species of hominid. Homo sapiens (us) is the only species known still to survive, although many others have become extinct.

The evidence for the existence of such species is, to cryptozoologists at least, very strong. In the Himalayas there are persistent stories of yetis, thought by some to be a type of orang-utan that has become adapted for life on the ground in the dense rhododendron forests. In North America there are constant sightings of the Sasquatch , or bigfoot , a larger creature whose appearance is similar to that of Gigantopithecus, a large prehistoric ape whose fossil remains are well-documented.

Dr Karl Shuker, a leading cryptozoologist, retains an open mind but says the chances of such a creature being found are high. “Since 1990 seven totally new species of monkey have been found in South America alone. If such primates could remain hidden from scientists for so long then it is highly likely that creatures closer to man and therefore more intelligent may yet be undiscovered.”

Copyright (C) The Sunday Times, 1997

Copyright: COPYRIGHT 1997 Sunday Times


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On the Gorilla Trial…

The delight was not unanimous. In general our announcement about out adventure was received by our friends with a flat- tering gloom, “Why not the lake or chloroform or something usual and immediate results instead of taking the trouble to go to Africa and give ourselves to a lion for lunch ? Also, demanded the

merry ones, if anything did happen, were we planning to ship the consumer back to the Zoo so they could place memorial wreaths about its neck ?

They called attention to Mr. McCutcheon’s picture of the jolly little cemetery back of Nairobi with “Killed by Lion” on every cross, and quoted “The bulge was Algy,”with persistent humor. Especially they pointed out that the gorilla was not noted for hospitality and presented us with various accounts in which we came upon some such heartening paragraph as, “The poor brave fellow who had gone off alone was lying on the ground in a pool of his own blood, his entrails torn out, his gun beside him, bitten in two by the gorilla’s teeth.”

I admit there was room for both humor and dismay. Between the lion’s chances for lunch and ours for a rug the odds we’re sportingly similar. Records were not encouraging, describing the grown male as a demon of ferocity, attacking on sight with a fury few hunters can withstand; but the records of the

gorilla were extremely scarce. It is surprising to learn how little has been discovered about the animal since Du Chaillu wrote his blood- curdling accounts of his adventures in the West Coast Jungle. There is no gorilla in a museum mounted by a man who ever saw a wild gorilla? We know almost nothing of habits or capacities”…

From the the book I’m currently reading.,

On the Gorilla Trail…by MARY HASTINGS BRADLEY.

Mary Bradley is listed as an author, she did pen some sci-fi books. But she wrote a series of books pertaining to her adventure in Africa looking for the great ape. The gorillas.

She spoke of coming to an island of them. Like In King Kong they must have been completely taken back arriving there. They came in to contact with all kinds of animals not seen live before, they also encountered cannibals of their travels. She may be listed as author but she is also a woman of the woods who went on an expedition few women got to do in their life, especially there and in the time in history.

I’ve been reading about the early gorilla encounters, seeing the similarities of what these zoologist/anthropologist went through in their quests as bigfoot researchers do now.

Most believe bigfoot is a great ape. So knowing about their history of discovery is helpful.

But reading this history is not, I repeat is not for the faint of heart. They were not treated well. Horrifically would be a good description of their treatment in the hands of man.

Captured, killed, experimented on, torn from their families.

After reading all this you may think twice about wanting to find a bigfoot alive and bring him in. Even if giving the easiest of opportunities, I’ll never do it, never. They don’t deserve us. Let history be a reminder….


Hanno The Navigator and his Gorillae…

Around 500 bc, a Carthaginian explorer named Hanno the Navigator( also thought to be possibly a king) guided a fleet of sixty oared ships through the Strait of Gibraltar and along the northwest lobe of the great elephant ear that is the African continent.

Toward the end of his journey, on an island in a lagoon, he encountered a “rude description of people”, rough-skinned, hairy, violent. The local interpreters called them Gorillae. Hanno and his crew attempted to capture some of them, but many climbed up steep elevations and hurled stones in defense. —wiki

He was able to catch three females and I’ll just leave it at that, the less you know the better. And there has been some question as to wether they are human or beast. But, if you look at this and some other very old encounters with the great apes, the more you hear the similarities of our modern bigfoot descriptions and behaviors. And they knew at that time about as much about the great apes as we do now of the bigfoot species now.

The bones weren’t plentiful and classified as a species till the 1800s. The first systematic study of one was not until 1920, And this first account was in 500 bc!

Looking at it in these terms, we are still in the infancy period of knowledge of these creatures. We are learning so many different things in just these past few years , now constantly adjusting our own evolutionary timeline and migration around the globe, after all this time that we can’t possibly be able to say, with conviction, that a North American Primate could not possibly have gotten here, and evolved in its own way.

Sketch by Shockwerks

My belief has always been that they are something in between man and primate, I usually used the description, missing link, but I no longer believe it is the link between ape and man. I believe we are Homo sapiens and we’ll, when we do have bones to classify, we can give them a proper name of their own.

I think with all the changes going on with our planet, the climate, weather etc.

That it’s time to throw location and migration patterns for all species out the window and go back to the drawing board. Their instinct will take them wherever they need to go to survive, they are operating on species survival instincts as old as the beginning of life, and way down deep, in our most basic nature so our we humans. Who knows where we may have to adapt and live in the future to continue our survival?

Welcome to the new world (animal migration) order everyone…buckle up. We’ll find that squatch someday.


Wildman of Woodhull…

The Wild Man Print by artist
Vincent Grondin

A correspondent to a Hornellsville paper tells the following veracious story:

“For the very strange story I am about to relate I scarcely expect, nor do I solicit, belief. Indeed, were it not that hundreds of reliable men and women in the county of Steuben are ready and willing to vouch for its truthfulness, I would never ask you to put it in print. The facts are as follows:

“During the four weeks last past a wild man has been prowling around the woods in the towns of Woodhull and Troupsburg, in the southern part of this county, coming frequently into the highways and cleared fields, to the intense terror of women and children, and even strong men. So great is the excitement in some parts of the towns mentioned, that schools have been broken up – parents not daring to send their little ones along the public highways to the schoolhouses.

At first the whole thing was considered by most people as a hoax, intended merely to frighten old women and children; but as many of the most prominent citizens vouched for the actual existence of the wild man, and the disturbance of the schools was making it a matter of public importance, the people of Woodhull and Troupsburg determined to do all in their power to ferret the matter out.

Accordingly, on the 12th inst., about two hundred men assembled at the residence of Mr. S. G. Brown, and proceeded to search the woods in that immediate locality. Under the leadership of Captain J. J. Buchanan and the writer of this article, crowds searched the woods for hours, but with no success further than the finding of a campfire and the track of a barefooted man imprinted in the soil of a marshy part of the forest; and the whole party, at about three o’clock P. M., returned to Mr. Brown’s house, and, getting ready their teams, started back for Woodhull village.

The party had proceeded scarcely fifty rods from Mr. Brown’s, when, on the outskirts of the woods, and within twenty rods of the band of searchers, appeared the veritable wild man of the woods! Myself, Capt. Buchanan, and the others, immediately started in full pursuit. We approached within six or eight rods of this strange being without attracting his notice, when suddenly, with a wild, unearthly shriek, he notified us that we were perceived. I drew my rifle, intending to halt him or send a bullet crashing through his skull. I ordered him to halt, when he sprang, with the agility of a deer, toward the woods.

I did not fire, because on second thought I doubted my right to take the life of any human being, however wild, until he had at least violated some law. So far I have related facts, which will be vouched for by at lease one hundred persons. I will now give you a perfect description of this wild man – or animal – or ‘What is It’ – as he, she, or it appeared to me.

He was barefooted, bareheaded, and wore no clothing except an old pair of soldiers’ pants; his hair, which was black, sprinkled with grey, was from two to three feet long, frizzly, and natted, hanging over his neck, face, shoulders and back, reaching half way to the ground; his beard reached to the waistband of his pants, and was jet black; this, together with a springing, jerking huch in his gait, gave him more the appearance of a wild animal than a human being. And, though I am not of a nervous temperament, may all the saints in heaven shield and defend me from ever meeting such a fiendish looking being face to face again! The long, matted hair; the thick, black and uncombed beard; the wild, glaring, bloodshot eyeballs, which seemed bursting from their sockets; the savage, haggard, unearthly countenance; the wild, beastly appearance of this thing, whether man or animal, has haunted me continually by day and night; and I do not wonder that when this strange being rapped on the school-house windows, children were frightened half out of their senses and refused to be pacified; for, although I have seen the faces of fifty different tribes of Rocky Mountain Indians, painted for the war-path, and have looked with wonder on the stuffed gorilla, Barnum’s ‘What is it,’ the man monkey &c., I have never beheld any thing in the human one half as hideous as the wild man of Woodhull woods.
“I will close by saying that 25 years ago, a man named William Little suddenly disappeared from Woodhull, and has never been heard of since; and as the farm on which the wild man spends most of his time was formerly owned by the absentee, it is supposed, by some that the wild man is none other than William Little himself, returned in this disguise to the home of his youth.

But I hardly think this theory the true one. I do believe, however, that a woman and baby are somewhat mixed up in the matter.” [Cincinnati Daily Enquirer (Cincinnati, OH) July 8, 1869;

This article, in it’s entirety, I was able to find on genealogy

But, on three different bigfoot sites I found this same account edited and leaving out some pesky details that could cause some doubt as to whether or not this is actually a bigfoot sighting. It’s not their faults though, because this may be the only version they know, its an example of how these tales change and evolve over time. It happens even now despite all the information we have at our very finger tips. Here’s the edited version,

“During the summer of 1869, a wild man was spotted by at least one hundred residents in the vicinity of Woodhill and Troupsville in Steuben County. It made shrieking sounds as it raced through the countryside. An eyewitness said it moved “with a springing, jerking hitch in his gait [that] gave him more the appearance of a wild animal than a human being.” One man got a close-up view: “The long, matted hair; the thick, black, uncombed beard; the wild, glaring, bloodshot eyeballs, which seemed bursting from their sockets; the swage, haggard, unearthly countenance; the wild, beastly appearance of this thing, whether man or animal, has haunted me”

This version is missing a few things, a major one being that he’s wearing pants a soldier would wear. I’ve never heard of him wearing pants before, have you?

Now, I’m not saying that it isn’t a bigfoot, but, the edited version certainly sounds much more like a bigfoot then the original letter may have you believe.

What are your thoughts on the encounter? Do you believe it is still a bigfoot or maybe a soldier suffering some ptsd and unable to cope in society?

This is an example of why It’s very important that we do our own research as well, of course being in the field is the best part of it all, at least for me, but It is also really important we’re doing the research outside of the woods as well.

Especially with these historical wildman encounters, because throughout history wildman we’re what they called, well, everything that wasn’t their idea of civilized, people who escaped to the woods because of poverty, insanity etc.

Negative bigfoot?

Art by Kim Loberg

So, I have a subject I always start to write about and ponder, then I stop, see more related comments and start again, but tonight I’m just going to bite the bullet and chat about it a bit.

This is one of those posts I’ve warned you about. The one where It’s just me sharing my thoughts and chatting with you. I consider this blog mostly as a conversation with you.

So, this past week, I saw at least four posts across social media platforms about how negative and jealous etc the bigfoot community can be. It’s so sad to see. Luckily I miss it usually.

And don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to see it, I just want to understand why it happens?

I know I’m always in my happy bubble walking the woods alone , but occasionally I do come out and go on various platforms, and then I’ll see a post again talking about the negativity, haters, etc. and I’m just like why can’t we all just get along.

Look, I’m socially awkward, I know that. I’ve always known I’m the girl that just doesn’t fit in anywhere. I’m convinced I was born in the wrong century altogether, but I am present. I talk to a few of you wonderful footers. and you have all been kind. I have a hard time reaching out to people myself, but I always try to show my regard adding these groups or peoples good work to my story, or on my page posts. It takes just seconds to give credit and respect to another person and I truly enjoy doing it.

So now that you know I’m always in this bubble, (a bubble that I’ll gladly share with anyone who needs one), can anyone tell me where all this negativity comes from? We are all on different personal journeys yes, but our end goals are all the same. Why fight? Everyone who hopes to find a bigfoot one day puts a lot of effort and mostly foots all the bill it incurs solely out of their own pocket. So wether you like them or not is no matter, just respect matters. All we truly have is our integrity.

Always try to respect another person’s theories and research, their philosophy and findings. Maybe we don’t all agree but respect goes a long way. Why burn a bridge? Hurt another’s feelings?

If you don’t agree that’s totally okay, I’m sure a lot of people don’t love what I’m up too all the time. My main comments that are negative I guess, would be that I put things other than bigfoot on my pages.

Well, sadly, that won’t ever change. I simply can’t live on bigfoot alone. I like sharing my nature walks and my crazy rescue dog also, and my poetry, (yes I said poetry). All of these things makes me, me. And as long as everyone else is doing their own thing too and being themselves, doing their research their way and aren’t hurting anyone else what’s to argue over?

I think everyone from the artist all the way to the more professional side have a voice, a place, and adds a piece to this wonderful puzzle that is the wild man. If I don’t say it enough, I respect all of you, you all rock. Keep on keeping on and if some negativity lands your way? Delete, block and move on. It’s only a fight if the other person reacts back. Just keep spreading positivity and love baby. It can’t hurt.

Go to sleep tonight knowing that you are weirdly awesome , and keep up all the great research you’re working on…

Have a great night everyone!